screen shot

topic posted Thu, May 3, 2007 - 4:54 PM by  dani
1. How do screen shots compare with actual digital photos? Can they work in a student newspaper as far as printing goes?
2. How do you put text right under a photo that has text wrap around it? (photo credit)


I use Cs2.

cheers!
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dani
  • Re: screen shot

    Fri, May 4, 2007 - 4:03 PM
    Hello Dani,

    A screen shot is AFAIK at 72dpi while printers like to have images at 300dpi, or at least 225dpi in my experience. I can't know the quality of your particular student newspaper, if it's like a national newpaper quality then perhaps 225dpi isn't needed, and 72dpi will look 'ok but a bit rough'; I'm not sure.

    Also, screenshots are taken using the RGB colour scheme (Red, Green, Blue) while print usually works in the CMYK colour scheme (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black) although Digital Printing will cope with RGB :)

    Digital Photos come in a variety of resolutions / dpi and it depends on the camera. Unless you want to learn about these things, I would suggest you take pictures with the best digi camera you have at the 'highest setting', then hand the files to a competent graphic designer / image manipulator and ask them to crop, resize and check the resolution / dpi for you. Such technical wizzards can often be found hunched over an Apple Mac in the Computer Science block or within the Graphic Arts dept.


    Your second question is rather oddly worded, and I can only imagine you would like some text to either be floating on the photo, or you wish to have the photo credit underneath the photo. Either way, this is a 'layout' query and so it all depends on what software you are using to design / layout your page. It's all about creating floating / fixed 'text boxes' or perhaps columns - depends on the software package.


    There's always lots to learn when you have ambitious design ideas, and there are always solutions, but no instruction manual can replace experimentation and good ol' experience.
    • Re: screen shot

      Fri, May 4, 2007 - 5:45 PM
      I thought I gave credit to my program, I use indesign cs2.

      I also use every image in black and white, so color doesn;t matter (right? Or...no?)

      As far as me taking pictures and cropping and checking their dpi I have a good camera and a Mac and Iphoto and it provides that info, so no problems in the pictures I/we take. The screen shots I take are from images on the net (copywright free of course) and I actually never learned how to capture a photo with this mac, so to save time, I've been using the screen shot thing. I usually use a photo from a screen shot as a background with the opacity lowered. But I use to print my paper at...*gulp* office depot. I created a PDF out of my whole paper and my images were never an issue. Now I am about to use JS printing and I will send them a PDF also. But last time I tried to use a printer they cried about the quality of my pictures. Back then, though, I was sending them the Indesign file and I wasn't ewbedding the photos properly. So now I'm just trying to plan ahead and think of anything that might hinder this paper because I am down to the wire on my deadline. Maybe sending it to JS as a PDF will also fix everything because what you see is what you get, right?

      I'm scared of the font thing, too. That they have the same font. I've layed out this paper in a size I can't print any other way and this paper is the grand end of the year edition.

      Any help is appreciated.
      • Re: screen shot

        Fri, May 4, 2007 - 5:50 PM
        Oh and when you give photo credit, you lodge the photopgraphers name at the bottom in like 9 font. When you have text wrap, it shoves away any text, so I can't get the name under the photo. I need the wrap because it shoves away the article. I tried raising the text wrap line so high it won't touch, but that didn't work. I tried to put the by line high in the picture out of desperation and it won't have it. I tried sending the photo to back, but the text wrap works all the way on the top layer.
      • Re: screen shot

        Sat, May 5, 2007 - 2:30 AM
        Dani,
        You've got a lot to learn... B&W doesn't mean that the format of the file doesn't have a colour space associated with it. Each image file is either RGB or CMYK depending on the application and the settings of that application at the time of creation of the image file. Your screen grabs are RGB and 72 dpi as someone already said. iPhoto's not what you want to be using either. Follow the suggestions the guy above gave you about resolution of the images.

        A PDF will help your printer rather than sending him your mess but it won't solve everything. You've got a lot to learn.
  • Re: screen shot

    Sat, May 5, 2007 - 2:33 AM
    To quickly say something about your font concerns, without knowing the details... and I don't want to get in to a long conversation either... You need to assure yourself that you're using PostScript or OpenType fonts only and forget that True Type exists...
    • Re: screen shot

      Wed, May 9, 2007 - 2:52 PM


      There's nothing up there to "follow" there's only statements. How do you "assure yourself" what "type"of font you are using? And don't answer with the same attitude above, if at all.
      • Re: screen shot

        Wed, May 9, 2007 - 10:44 PM
        You can use the Preflight option in the File menu.

        There's no attitude. Just you're taking on too much without the knowledge. There's no set recipe that one can give you either.

        Some resources are:
        creativepro.com
        indesignsecrets.com
      • Re: screen shot

        Mon, June 18, 2007 - 9:55 PM
        are u using any type of font management software or the fonts that came with your system? I agree with Sean, I didn't read a bit of attitude, just the truth. You're a newbie, nothing wrong with that... you are asking the right questions and you have A LOT to learn.
  • Re: screen shot

    Fri, June 15, 2007 - 9:01 AM
    I'm sure this is too late for, but just in case...

    Re: your photo credits:

    - Select the frame containing the text you don't want to wrap
    - Press Command-B
    - Check off 'Ignore text wrap'

    Hope this can help you in the future!

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